Simon:解释关于时间线上 AI 缩略图过多的原因,鼓励手工原创的展示图

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原文链接
https://x.com/DevSlashNulled/status/2094436706640449623
https://x.com/Simon_Hypixel/status/2094438630051733697
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Simon、DevSlashNulled
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ETW_Zero
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@Simon_Hypixel:
Update 6 进展顺利!即使没有新增内容,玩家数量也在上升,很大程度上是因为模组浏览器易于使用,而且模组制作者有了新工具可以玩!从现在来看,情况非常好,比我预想的还要好!

Eli(译注:即 DevSlashNulled)在下面列出了未来几天模组浏览器将上线的内容,这份清单还只是开始。我们仍处于“快速迭代、敢于打破、后续修复”的模式,而且这是有意为之!

现在,关于一些模组制作者使用 AI 生成缩略图的问题——这事已经占据我的时间线整整三天了。我想让大家都明白,我个人一点也不喜欢 AI 艺术,宁愿它不存在。但同时,我也不想把模组浏览器变成一个审查执法机构。每一层审核要么会拖慢模组上架速度,要么会给我的团队增加额外负担,而且这些都解决不了明年真正的问题——到那时,真实和生成的内容几乎无法区分。如果我们采用自动化方案,人们也会绕过这些检查。说起来简单,就是审核嘛。但实际上并非如此,我们也不可能为成千上万的模组配备专门的缩略图审核人员。话虽如此,我们已经与合作方沟通,正在探索解决方案。我对现状并不满意,大家也都清楚。请耐心等待。

我还想澄清一下,你在社交媒体上实际看到的情况。很多流传的截图使用了排序筛选,显示出的“垃圾内容”远多于默认页面。你自己试试看:打开模组主页面,几乎看不到(如果有的话)多少 AI 缩略图。

与此同时,模组制作者们,请尽量使用实际截图作为缩略图。如果你需要美术素材,可以和艺术家合作,或者自己画得差一点,以后慢慢改进。老实说,这仍然比生成艺术要好,而且能提高你被我们推荐的机会。

从长远来看,玩家们会在这方面提供很大帮助。收藏、评分——你们用自己喜欢的内容投票。我们之前提到的创作者奖励机制,应该也能让模组制作者负担得起艺术家的费用,而且我们会推广能够帮助他们的艺术家。

在我们这边,Hytale 绝不会内置生成式 AI 艺术,一像素都不会。我希望模组制作者也能做出同样的选择。我们不会雇佣成百上千的人去打一场不可能打赢的仗,但我们希望模组制作者明白艺术和艺术家的重要性。我们相信玩家会奖励那些选择正确道路的人。

最后一点。我本想周末陪陪孩子——过去这一年因为 Hytale 我几乎没怎么陪他们——但看到一些大声嚷嚷的人刚过个周末就陷入全面恐慌,实在有点令人失望。你们现在应该了解我了。我总会带着解决方案回来。请给我们一点时间来处理,有建议可以提,但别在周六就逼着要答案。我当初拯救 Hytale 是出于热情和乐趣,我希望这份初心能保持下去。



@DevSlashNulled:
当前的模组浏览器只是一个开始,我们快速上线,后续再完善。
  • 评分将由我们管理,不会从任何社区网站导入。模组从零开始计分,这样社区推荐的模组才有机会攀升到前列。
  • 收藏夹可跨版本保留。
  • 模组包(整合包)。
  • 第三方来源(包括非官方和官方)。
  • 自动更新。
  • 对模组进行正确的版本处理。
当前的浏览器才刚刚起步。



原文:
@Simon_Hypixel:
Update 6 went well! Player count is going up even without any new content, and much of that is because the mod browser is easy to use and modders have new tools to play with! Things are looking really good from here. Better than I predicted!

Eli listed what is coming to the mod browser in the next few days below, and that list is just the start. We are still in ship fast, break things, fix later mode, and that is on purpose!

Now, a note about some modders using AI thumbnail art, since it has been my whole timeline for three days. Just so everyone understands, I am not a fan of AI art at all, and I would rather it wasn't there. I also do not want to turn the browser into a police force. Every layer of moderation either slows down mods getting approved or lands on my team as overhead, and none of it fixes next year, when real and generated will be basically impossible to tell apart. If we take an automated solution, people will just route around the checks. It sounds simple to just moderate. It isn't, and we aren't going to staff a thumbnail review across hundreds of thousands of mods. That said, we have already communicated with our partners to explore solutions. I'm not happy with the current state of things, and everyone is aware. Please be patient.

I also want to be clear about what you actually see on social media. A lot of the screenshots going around use sort filters that show way more slop than the default pages do. Just try it yourself: open the main mod page, and there is barely any (if any?).

In the meantime, modders, please use screenshots for thumbnails. If you need art, work with an artist, or make bad art yourself and fix it later. Honestly, that is still better than gen art and up your chances of getting featured by us.

Longer term, players will help a lot with this. Favorites, ratings, you vote with what you like. The creator rewards we have talked about should also let modders afford artists, and we will promote the artists who can help them.

On our side, Hytale does not ship generative AI art and never will. Not a single pixel. I hope modders make the same choice. We are not going to hire hundreds of people to fight an impossible fight, but we hope our modders understand how important art and artists are. We are betting players reward the people who choose the right path.

One last thing. I was trying to spend the weekend with my kids, something I barely did this past year because of Hytale, and it was a bit disappointing to watch some of the loud voices go full panic when it had barely been a weekend. You know me by now. I always come back with a solution. Give us a bit of room to work, and bring suggestions instead of demanding an answer on a Saturday. I saved Hytale for the passion and fun of it, and I want to keep it that way.

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@DevSlashNulled:
The current mod browser is just the beginning, we ship fast and make it good later.

- Ratings will be run by us, not imported from any community site. Mods start with a fresh score so community picks actually have a chance to rise to the top.
- Favorites that persist across installs
- Mod bundles (modpacks)
- 3rd party sources, unofficial and official
- Auto updating
- Proper version handling for mods

The current browser is barely getting started.